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🎙️Introducing: But We Loved - a new exploration of queer history with the wisdom of LGBTQ+ elders who lived it
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🎙️Introducing: But We Loved - a new exploration of queer history with the wisdom of LGBTQ+ elders who lived it

From iHeartPodcasts and the Outspoken Network comes But We Loved, a new podcast that uncovers the untold stories of queer history through intimate interviews with LGBTQ+ elders, who share their wisdom, their struggle, and — most importantly – their triumph. As a gay kid growing up Catholic, in conservative Texas, Jordan Gonsalves knew nothing about queer history. Now, as a journalist, he’s searching for the stories he craved when he was coming of age.

Through the show, he discovers the role models he always needed and the wisdom they’ve been waiting to pass down. This weekly show will cover major historical topics like Stonewall, gay marriage, and the AIDS crisis — but also other areas of queer life like sex work, coming out on YouTube, and the history of Vouging. Guests include Jim Obergefell, the plaintiff in the case that legalized gay marriage for all Americans, and Eric Marcus, host of Making Gay History.

“Growing up, I thought being gay was the worst thing I could ever be. But making this show has forced me to completely unlearn that. These are amazing stories of bravery and perseverance,” says Gonsalves. Host Jordan Gonsalves is a graduate of the Columbia School of Journalism and creator of the groundbreaking interview podcast Unshaming.

He has a unique beat: shame and its impact on people. His master's thesis from Columbia on HIV in the military was published in Time Magazine.


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